By Lindsey Bahr, Film Writer
NEW YORK (AP) --In Mike Mills' "C'mon C'mon," Joaquin Phoenix plays a New York-based radio journalist who, throughout the movie, records interviews with real kids about their lives, asking them questions like, "What scares you?" and "What makes you happy?"
During the film's making, Mills would schedule the interviews sporadically, often at the end of a day of shooting.
"It was a constant reminder of what being genuine was in front of the camera, to really be authentic," Phoenix says. "They just were."
"It kind of changed the chemistry all the way through," says Mills. "All films should have to do that."
Moments of documentary make cameos in "C'mon C'mon," but the entire film pulses with something tenderly close to real life. The performances are loose and often improvised. The story, of an uncle (Phoenix) thrust into parenting his sister's 9-year-old son (Woody Norman), was inspired by Mills' relationship with his own child, Hopper.
"I always tell Hopper that a human being is huge," says Mills, who's married to the filmmaker Miranda July. "All the possibilities and contradictions are enormous. A film about human beings, if you're lucky, you're going to get, like, a sliver."
The black-and-white "C'mon C'mon," which a24 opens in theaters Friday, may be the rare film to do a touch better than that. Since its launch earlier this fall at the Telluride and New York Film festivals, "C'mon C'mon" has been received as an uncommonly sweet, open-hearted and genuine film, a shaggy portrait of profound adult-child connection.
In October, Phoenix and Mills gathered on a midtown balcony to discuss the film, shot in January 2020 just before the pandemic began and edited throughout it. In the interim, Phoenix became a father. Last year, he and Rooney Mara had a boy, River, named after Phoenix's late brother.
"It was like every phase of life was compounded into a few short months," says Phoenix, smiling. "Life and death. Welcome to the experience!"
Asked if Phoenix began "C'mon C'mon" knowing that fatherhood was coming, he replies, "I don't know. Do the math, man" — before relenting that he did know. But Phoenix, who has always been disinclined to draw straight lines between art and life, cautions it was only an entry point.
"When I think about it in relationship to my kid and my experience, I go 'Ugh.' This is so its own thing. I don't want to get into that game of thinking about my life. Was I? I'm sure subconsciously," Phoenix says. "I think it's beautiful when you are inspired by things in your life, but it's also somewhat disgusting at times."
For Mills, the writer-director of "Beginners" and "20th Century Woman," family has been a regular reservoir. "Beginners," with Christopher Plummer, was based on his father, and Annette Bening's matriarch in "20th Century Woman" was inspired by his mother. But he's also hesitant to be too straightforward about it. "Family" sounds too normative to him. He thinks of his subject as "primary relationships."
"I do feel like the people that show up in your life in a really big way are your cosmos," says Mills. "Everything's there. It's 'Game of Thrones' and 'Spider-Man' and the comedy all thrown together."
"C'mon C'mon" may be built on autobiography but Mills' collaborative process turned it into something else, into its own thing. For Norman, 12, the freedom of Mills' filmmaking was new and transformative.
"I've worked on films that have been very much, 'It has to be in the script and you can't change anything,'" says Norman, speaking by Zoom from his home in London. "It being loose, I thought, let my creativity flow. To me, the film is very charming in that way because you can tell that everything is real."
In the film, Norman's character, Jesse, is full of curiosities and eccentricates that go beyond the usual views of childhood in film. Like Jesse, Norman wants to be taken seriously for all he's capable of.
"I don't want to be seen as a child actor," Norman says. "I want to be seen as an actor who is a child."
Phoenix also began as a child actor, an experience he thinks back fondly on. He believes he was then a fully instinctual actor, a mindset he tries to recapture. For Phoenix, it was moving watching Norman go through something similar in the borderless creative space of "C'mon C'mon."
"Somewhere near the end, he said with no irony, 'I've been carrying you this whole picture.' And I think we all agreed with that," says Phoenix.
"C'mon C'mon" follows a diametrically opposite film for Phoenix in 2019's "Joker." Mills' film wasn't an antidote to anything, Phoenix says, but he did slide into a different dynamic acting opposite Norman.
"Oftentimes if you're a protagonist in a film, at least with the kind of actor I am, I feel this need to drive things, to drive the scene," says Phoenix. "It was very interesting to not be driving the scene and to be listening and reacting to what someone else was doing."
That was also true of the interviews in the film. They took place around the country — New York, New Orleans, Chicago, Los Angeles — and with a wide spectrum of kids. The movie is dedicated to one, Devante Bryant, a New Orleans 9-year-old who was later killed in a shooting.
Phoenix, who has sometimes had a more tortured relationship to interviews, started by recording one with his own nephew. He went in concerned that it would feel intrusive or uncomfortable. But when he asked his nephew afterward how it felt, he replied, "That was amazing. You asked me things that you've never asked me before."
"I've always had this strange somewhat adversarial relationship with the idea of an interview and being asked questions that are going to be recorded, just because of the nature of this thing," says Phoenix. "We come to this watering hole but we have different lives away from it. I really have this appreciation for what you do and how difficult it can be and how powerful it can be, and the beauty of being able to spark a conversation between people. At its best, it's that."
Director John Larigakis Joins Strike Anywhere For His 1st U.S. Spot Representation
Strike Anywhere has added filmmaker John Larigakis to its talent roster, marking his first U.S. commercial representation. He continues to be repped in Canada by production house BOLDLY.
Larigakis first established himself on the agency side of the business where he spent 15 years, including serving as a sr. art director at DDB Canada and then a creative director at 123w before making a seamless transition to directing commercials..
Conceptual and highly art-directed, Larigakis’ style focuses on comedic surrealism grounded in reality. By counterbalancing the outlandish and colorful setting with deadpan performances, the key to his commercials is the metaphorical twist on the core concept, ultimately yielding a funny film. His stylistic vision is often brought to life through custom props, 3D animation, physical comedy, and practical effects to craft imaginative environments and memorable characters.
As a director, Larigakis recently won a Berlin Commercial Award for his work with Extra Gum. He’s also helmed films for brands like Starbucks, Nintendo Switch, Playland, and Sandman Hotels. Throughout his career in advertising, Larigakis has developed work that has won six Cannes Lions, 12 One Show Pencils, six D&AD Pencils, and six Clios.
“I’m a big fan of Strike Anywhere’s approach, their mix of strong advertising and film projects, and most importantly, the team,” remarked Larigakis. “They are genuinely passionate about helping directors grow and develop their careers, and I’m at a stage where I’m excited to continue crafting my skills in new areas.”
Ryan Simon, founding partner of Strike Anywhere, added, “At Strike Anywhere, comedy is key to company growth, and we’re elevating the game by joining forces... Read More